But that's just too blunt

When we put it plainly like this—as a direct choice between God and our stuff—most of us hope we would choose God. But we need to realize that how we spend our time, what our money goes toward, and where we will invest our energy is equivalent to choosing God or rejecting Him. How could we think for even a second that something on this puny little earth compares to the Creator and Sustainer and Savior of it all.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

Just do it!

[T]hough I do not wish to deny the mental aspect of being wise, the latter part of Proverbs depicts wisdom at least as much as wise living as wise thinking. This means that in order to experience God’s presence in one’s life it is inevitable not only to think the right things but also to do them, according to Proverbs.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, page 185

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Once again our "brains on a stick" mentality doesn't cut it when you look for it in scripture. Orthodoxy = orthopraxy.
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I've got it together

Lukewarm people do not live by faith; their lives are structured so they never have to. They don’t have to trust God if something unexpected happens—they have their savings account. They don’t need God to help them—they have their retirement plan in place. They don’t genuinely seek out what life God would have them live—they have life figured and mapped out. They don’t depend on God on a daily basis—their refrigerators are full and, for the most part, they are in good health. The truth is, their lives wouldn’t look much different if they suddenly stopped believing in God.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

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Sound pretty boring to me...
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No doubt

The opposite of trust in God in Proverbs is not so much ‘doubt’ in God (which is seldom mentioned if at all, at least not explicitly) but trust in oneself (cf. 3:5 vs 3:7; 28:25-26.) No wonder the reader of Proverbs is so often reminded about the dangers of pride.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, page 150

Play it safe

Lukewarm people are continually concerned with playing it safe; they are slaves to the god of control. This focus on safe living keeps them from sacrificing and risking for God.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

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And, I would add, experiencing the joy of knowing that God cares for every need...
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The source

Proverbs 2 does not teach that the ‘world order’ is independent from Yahweh. On the contrary, the order of reality is that wisdom, and therefore justice and protection, proceed from Yahweh. The teaching is not about Yahweh and the world order but about Yahweh’s mind as the world order. If one longs for understanding the world properly, then he or she has to understand God first, as he is the order of the world. God is the reality.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, page 149

Gotcha!

Lukewarm people don’t really want to be saved from their sin; they want only to be saved from the penalty of their sin. They don’t genuinely hate sin and aren’t truly sorry for it; they’re merely sorry because God is going to punish them. Lukewarm people don’t really believe that this new life Jesus offers is better than the old sinful one.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

Brains on a stick?

As for the ‘knowledge of God,’ we have seen that most commentators understand it in Hosea in a covenantal framework in which it refers both to history and law. We have also seen that in the case of history it means more than simply being aware of the historical facts; it also means knowing that it is Yahweh who is behind those historical facts. It very probably also means more than simply being aware of some legal precepts, in the case of law. Knowledge is not enough: true knowledge is expressed by action.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, pages 139-140

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Indeed! This is a healthy corrective to our cerebral christianity...
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Unbalanced?

I was told that I was good enough, “godly enough.”

But this went against everything I was reading in the Bible, so I eventually rejected what the majority said and began to compare all aspects of my life to scripture. I quickly found that the American church is a difficult place to fit if you want to live out New Testament Christianity. The goals of American Christianity are often a nice marriage, children who don’t swear, and good church attendance. Taking the words of Christ literally and seriously is rarely considered. That’s for the “radicals” who are “unbalanced” and who go “overboard.” Most of us want a balanced life that we can control, that is safe, and that does not involve suffering.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

Backwards, as usual

Wisdom repeatedly claims about herself that she provides riches, so, though it is not stated explicitly, one can logically deduce that wisdom is better than riches because wisdom can provide riches, whereas riches do not lead to wisdom. Furthermore, the context of some of the ‘better than’ sayings suggest that this virtuous character is useful for survival and protection.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, page 125

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Of course, we get it backwards, as usual. We want riches, thinking they will take care of us; but they won't. They can't. Only God can. And wisdom is a gift from God...
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What does this mean?

I picked this in my garden this AM. maybe I should call a priest and see what kind of an omen it is...

About those thorns...

[Talking about the parable of the sower, Chan says:] My caution to you is this: Do not assume you are good soil.

I think most American churchgoers are the soil that chokes the seed because of all the thorns. Thorns are anything that distracts us from God. When we want God and a bunch of other stuff, then that means we have thorns in our soil. A relationship with God simply cannot grow when money, sins, activities, favorite sports teams, addictions, or commitments are piled on top of it.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

So?

The transition from industrial society to post-industrial societies . . . brings a polarization between Survival and Self-expression values. The unprecedented wealth that has accumulated in advanced societies during the past generation means that an increasing share of the population has grown up taking survival for granted. Thus, priorities have shifted from an overwhelming emphasis on economic and physical security toward an increasing emphasis on subjective well-being, self-expression and quality of life.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, page 114

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And what does that mean to us, as we read the book of Proverbs? It will be interesting to see him develop this...
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It's that parent thing

My own love and desire for my kids’ love is so strong that it opened my eyes to how much God desires and loves us. My daughter’s expression of love for me and her desire to be with me is the most amazing thing. Nothing compares to being truly, exuberantly wanted by your children.

Through this experience, I came to understand that my desire for my children is only a faint echo of God’s great love for me and for every person He made.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

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Amen to that. I have frequently asked people why they think God loves and cares for them less than they do their children. I know a man who drove from here to Arizona to get one of his kids who was in trouble. But he was questioning the degree of God's care for him! Once he saw the disconnect, he laughed. God loves us so much more than that! And we question his love and care for us?!

It can only be because we've believed the enemy's lies about who God is and what he is like. We need the Holy Spirit to correct our screwed up concepts of God! Even so, come Lord Jesus! Come into our lives and minds and transform us by the power of your love!
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Missing the point

Therefore, the special emphasis of wisdom is on long life and the ability to avoid dangerous situations. This emphasis is too little recognised in scholarly discussions, maybe because of wisdom’s special connection with the wise and fabulously rich Solomon, and maybe also because of the sociological context of many modern western interpreters, who are probably more interested in prosperity than in survival.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, page 114

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Bingo! He hit the nail on the head with that last statement. We are so assured of our survival—probably incorrectly so!—that we want prosperity. That pretty much marginalizes Proverbs...
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Face-to-face

When we face the holy God, “nice” isn’t what we will be concerned with, and it definitely isn’t what He will be thinking about. Any compliments you received on earth will be gone; all that will be left for you is truth.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

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That could be a scary thought! Good thing God is crazy over us...
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Look out!

[T]he most significant feature of wisdom in the book of Proverbs, [is] namely, that it is a tool to survive. Proverbs sees the world as a fundamentally dangerous place. Whybray notes in connection with chapters 10:1–22:16 and 25–29 that it is dominated by the language of disaster. No less than 103 verses (out of 513) are about different possibilities of personal disasters.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, pages 110-111

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20%! I wonder how many different disasters there are...
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Not too much, just everything

We forget that God never had an identity crisis. He knows that He’s great and deserves to be the center of our lives. Jesus came humbly as a servant, but He never begs us to give Him some small part of ourselves. He commands everything from His followers.—Crazy Love, electronic edition

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I finally read this book. I know, it's been out for how long? But it was good. Be prepared for some choice excerpts for a while...
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Context? What context?

In fact, I would rather say that in a sense proverbs are too alive without a context. They can have many meanings, connotations, nuances. Many of them can be approached from a theological perspective, or from a psychological one, or from a historical one, etc., as the reader wishes, basically without restrictions.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, page 84

We forget

However valid and helpful the historical and sociological analyses are, we should not forget that historical understanding, which focuses more on the motivations, aims, and circumstances of the authors, cannot be equated completely with the understanding of a biblical text.—Toward an Interpretation of the Book of Proverbs, page 82

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The historical-critical method is wonderful, but it has its limits—something which we so easily forget. Us academic types don't have a problem parsing out a verse and describing all the ins and outs of grammar and history and social setting and... But is that what it really is all about? In the end, isn't it about changing lives and allowing the kingdom to become a reality in my life?

I have to confess that I'm not as good at that...I too easily allow the academic to get in the way of the Spirit's working. I get sidetracked by an interesting variant in the apparatus, or a minor grammatical point, or...the list goes on and on. And the Spirit is quenched. Not always, mind you. Sometimes the Spirit is in the rabbit trails; I need to listen and hear which are of the Spirit and which aren't. Total dependence, every moment dependence. In absolute humility and trust.
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